tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27945613.post7807076925021458461..comments2023-06-20T02:06:52.150-06:00Comments on Alethiography: A Bit More About Liking MathTamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18079829842465164437noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27945613.post-79379395448327877292009-08-26T08:43:46.146-06:002009-08-26T08:43:46.146-06:00No, but one suspects it is nearly criminally stupi...No, but one suspects it is nearly criminally stupid to purchase a paper from someone who can't write a grammatical blog comment.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18079829842465164437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27945613.post-36173007991911115582009-08-26T03:46:20.577-06:002009-08-26T03:46:20.577-06:00If you need to get an admission in a school, colle...If you need to get an admission in a school, college or a university or cause any help in any kind of job, so don’t get anxious. Buy papers at <a href="http://www.bestwritingservice.com" rel="nofollow">persuasive essay writing service</a>. I don’t anticipate that there is anything criminal in using writing services.Indiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01599106291902671688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27945613.post-7662925236834675632009-08-23T11:20:51.921-06:002009-08-23T11:20:51.921-06:00Well, that's a relief. I thought maybe it was...Well, that's a relief. I thought maybe it was your subtle way of pointing out that my reading comprehension is as weak as my math ;-)Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18079829842465164437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27945613.post-60601285566413488732009-08-23T10:25:30.247-06:002009-08-23T10:25:30.247-06:00That's because the clarification doesn't m...That's because the clarification doesn't make sense. This is what happens when I don't re-read what I've written before I post it. I changed my mind about how I was going to express myself halfway through the sentence, always risky. Strike the "other than" and we should be back to the previous statement.Sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15376389949707679077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27945613.post-6901024350038292042009-08-22T18:06:05.604-06:002009-08-22T18:06:05.604-06:00I understood what you said originally but, oddly, ...I understood what you said originally but, oddly, not your clarification. (?)Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18079829842465164437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27945613.post-48591072298198429932009-08-22T11:38:18.511-06:002009-08-22T11:38:18.511-06:00Clarification: when I was talking about subjects a...Clarification: when I was talking about subjects appearing subjective, I meant this to mean that people view subjects *other than math* (and maybe some of the sciences) as objective but humanities/social sciences as more subjective.Sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15376389949707679077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27945613.post-59389666310537790542009-08-22T11:36:47.944-06:002009-08-22T11:36:47.944-06:00Hah, I read rvman's post thinking, Yeah, I agr...Hah, I read rvman's post thinking, Yeah, I agree!<br /><br />I think the fact that in many fields, what constitutes good work appears very subjective allows people to BS themselves about their own competence. (I say "appears" because it is possible/likely that there may be a subjective element to whether a given math proof is elegant and many fields are less subjective than people think.)<br /><br />Relative to other academic subjects, it becomes pretty obvious if you are reading something in math and don't understand it, sort of like you quickly can tell you don't understand an essay written in Portuguese. The sometimes superficial relationship between language used in academic work and normal life makes it easier to just slide along with a sense of understanding. <br /><br />Of course, then a person takes the GRE and bombs the reading comprehension section and rather than realizing they don't understand things as well as they think they do, they just hate the bastards at ETS.Sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15376389949707679077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27945613.post-89822312432304674772009-08-21T15:37:33.649-06:002009-08-21T15:37:33.649-06:00Yeah, I think you're probably right. And the ...Yeah, I think you're probably right. And the comprehension issue is similar as well - I could read a brilliant essay on pretty much any topic and feel that I've understood it completely while actually missing substantial elements (either of the argument itself or of its historical, political, philosophical, etc. significance). In math it is far more obvious when you don't understand something.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18079829842465164437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27945613.post-52577201303875229012009-08-21T15:31:37.914-06:002009-08-21T15:31:37.914-06:00This comment is not original to me, btw, but rathe...This comment is not original to me, btw, but rather has been shaped by many conversations with Sally about the topic.rvmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13956207771311921934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27945613.post-13400650260985119892009-08-21T15:30:48.984-06:002009-08-21T15:30:48.984-06:00I think this imagining of competence is a major dr...I think this imagining of competence is a major driver of math anxiety. MOST people think they are competent at pretty much anything they do, and the less competent, the more they think they are. Unlike most things, math education provides constant feedback as to how incompetent you really are. <br /><br />So people fear math tests in the way they might, say, an Lit paper, even though they will manage to handle most of technical details of the math assignment, but their responses on their Lit paper will be banal, boring, and stupid. However, because they spelled the words right and formatted it in the approved 5x5 type format, they got their B. The teacher won't be able to provide useful feedback (Be more creative! Think better!) , and they won't be able to see the difference between their B and their classmate's A, which allows them to assume the teacher just hates them. In math, however, they can see all of the red ink marking the wrong answers, and they can see the right answers on their classmates' test, and so they can't rationalize away their relative lack of performance.rvmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13956207771311921934noreply@blogger.com